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13 Apr 2018
News - Upgrades for Barratt and Persimmon as Liberum becomes more constructive on housebuilders from Proactive Investors
3 Apr 2018
Barratt Developments - Total Voting Rightsfrom Interactive Investor
3 Apr 2018
RNS press release - Total Voting Rights from Proactive Investors
6 Mar 2018
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6 Mar 2018
RNS press release - Director/PDMR Shareholding from Proactive Investors
1 Mar 2018
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1 Mar 2018
RNS press release - Total Voting Rights from Proactive Investors
22 Feb 2018
Barratt Developments - Director/PDMR Shareholdingfrom Interactive Investor
22 Feb 2018
RNS press release - Director/PDMR Shareholding from Proactive Investors
21 Feb 2018
Barratt Developments - Interim resultsfrom Interactive Investor
21 Feb 2018
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21 Feb 2018
News - Barratt Developments' share price weakness presents a good buying opportunity from Proactive Investors
21 Feb 2018
News - Barratt Developments still seeing good consumer demand from Proactive Investors
1 Feb 2018
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1 Feb 2018
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22 Jan 2018
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22 Jan 2018
RNS press release - Block listing Interim Review from Proactive Investors
18 Jan 2018
Barratt Developments - Barratt joint venture with Swindon Borough Councilfrom Interactive Investor
18 Jan 2018
RNS press release - Barratt joint venture with Swindon Borough Council from Proactive Investors
11 Jan 2018
Barratt Developments - Trading Statementfrom Interactive Investor
11 Jan 2018
RNS press release - Trading Statement from Proactive Investors
11 Jan 2018
News - Barratt Developments reports rise in first half completions and forward sales from Proactive Investors
2 Jan 2018
RNS press release - Total Voting Rights from Proactive Investors
1 Dec 2017
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27 Nov 2017
RNS press release - Director/PDMR Shareholding from Proactive Investors
23 Nov 2017
News - Deutsche Bank says land banking review will actually be a positive for housebuilders from Proactive Investors
17 Nov 2017
RNS press release - Holding(s) in Company from Proactive Investors
16 Nov 2017
RNS press release - Result of AGM from Proactive Investors
15 Nov 2017
RNS press release - Trading Statement from Proactive Investors
15 Nov 2017
News - Barratt reports 'strong' first quarter but analysts warn on interest rates and Help to Buy uncertainty from Proactive Investors
1 Nov 2017
RNS press release - Total Voting Rights from Proactive Investors
24 Oct 2017
RNS press release - Director/PDMR Shareholding from Proactive Investors
23 Oct 2017
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17 Oct 2017
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9 Oct 2017
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6 Oct 2017
News - Housebuilders up as Halifax reports house prices jump; Barratt Developments boosted by broker upgrade from Proactive Investors
5 Oct 2017
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5 Oct 2017
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2 Oct 2017
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2 Oct 2017
RNS press release - Directorate Change from Proactive Investors
2 Oct 2017
News - Housebuilders surge on news of extension to Help to Buy scheme from Proactive Investors
28 Sep 2017
RNS press release - Additional Listing from Proactive Investors
25 Sep 2017
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6 Sep 2017
RNS press release - Final Results from Proactive Investors
6 Sep 2017
News - Barratt and Berkeley drag shares in housebuilders lower as they caution investors on Brexit from Proactive Investors
6 Sep 2017
News - Barratt Developments under the cosh as it delivers record full year profits but margins disappoint from Proactive Investors
1 Sep 2017
RNS press release - Total Voting Rights from Proactive Investors
4 Aug 2017
News - Housebuilders shares tumble on reports government is mulling end to Help to Buy from Proactive Investors
1 Aug 2017
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24 Jul 2017
RNS press release - Director/PDMR Shareholding from Proactive Investors
21 Jul 2017
RNS press release - Block listing Interim Review from Proactive Investors
12 Jul 2017
RNS press release - Trading Statement from Proactive Investors
12 Jul 2017
News - Barratt Developments expects annual profits to beat market forecasts on strong housing demand from Proactive Investors
3 Jul 2017
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22 Jun 2017
RNS press release - Appointment Chief Financial Officer from Proactive Investors
20 Jun 2017
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14 Jun 2017
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1 Jun 2017
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23 May 2017
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Re: on the verge of another crisis? by malj1

  Fri, 20 Apr 2018 15:01:00 GMT
Oh dear oh dear. Lol. Talk about selective memory. Yes BAR fell to about 39p for about a morning or afternoon end 08 or possibly q1 09. Don't recollect you predicting that. But curiously since then it's risen up, whilst you've predicted the same old pants, thus missing one of the greatest recovery plays. You don't seem to recall being steadily wrong for a decade. Quite an achievement that! I wasn't aware that you had the intellectual capacity to formulate a view; if cutnpaste made one a millionaire I daresay you'd be rolling, but I rather doubt you are. There again the folks who have made out like bandits are the ones who spotted & rode the recovery (& that includes, at the risk of immodesty, me!). But I find your delusions interesting - have you considered CBT or perhaps Freudian approach. Anyway I must remain on planet earth
By malj1

Re: on the verge of another crisis? by oceanfree

  Fri, 20 Apr 2018 11:13:00 GMT
Did it go to 30p? Wow. I only bought a "house worth" at 70p!

I now have a cul-de-sac and get 1/3 house a year in divis.

While you go on about bubbles bursting there has been money made.

By oceanfree

Re: on the verge of another crisis? by oceanfree

  Fri, 20 Apr 2018 11:06:00 GMT
"I have no idea what hpi at year end will be but at a guess flat at best.... The underlying trend is the bubble is bursting and era of cheap money is coming to an end "

"Flat hpi" is covering up an underlying bursting bubble?

Is this one of those benign bursting bubbles that doesn't loose any size? Kind of a gentle bursting, maybe even with the bubble staying for a few more years or getting bigger? Maybe it wasn't over stretched in the first place?



By oceanfree

Re: on the verge of another crisis? by taffychaff

  Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:58:00 GMT
During that time the sp fell to around 30p so I was right then and currently right now

Keep up
By taffychaff

Re: on the verge of another crisis? by IB Investor

  Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:08:00 GMT
12 years of failed attemps to drive the price down - must have a big put on the shares. Only a WEAK Buy because of the turbulence in the marks
By IB Investor

Re: on the verge of another crisis? by taffychaff

  Fri, 20 Apr 2018 04:19:00 GMT
Try to argue the point not the person.. I didn't write the article.. Why not comment on the content

The sp has fallen into bear territory unless you missed it

I have no idea what hpi at year end will be but at a guess flat at best.... The underlying trend is the bubble is bursting and era of cheap money is coming to an end

By taffychaff

Re: on the verge of another crisis? by malj1

  Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:00:00 GMT
er ... actually no we're not. Don't you ever get bored with your doomster posts? I mean the final para about 'ignore reality' reminds me, but clearly not you, just how many of your theendoftheworldisnigh posts over the past decade have come true? As we're all here, I guess the answer is nil isn't it?! Don't tell me, you've made a fortune in the market backing your calls - Lol. As if. I'll get worried the day you start making a positive prediction, given your 100% track record of always being wrong. Go on put your money where your mouth is & wipe yourself out & give us all a rest.

For my part my call is hpi end 18 will be another ca +5%.

All you have to do now is post how much hpi will fall be at the end of 18. What no reply?! Now there's a surprise - not!
By malj1

on the verge of another crisis? by taffychaff

  Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:25:00 GMT
The spring of 2018 is starting to feel a bit like that of a decade ago on the eve of the financial crisis. On the surface all looks swell, even if the azaleas are delayed by a prolonged Washington cold spell.

Economic output is powering ahead and that allows the optimists to keep the upper hand. In 2008 the collapse and rescue of Bear Stearns was a straw in the wind largely ignored.

This time around the phoney trade war between the US and China, the prospect of a return to higher and more normal interest rates and geopolitical tensions are seen as big risks.

When the going is good financial markets keep on doing their thing and tend to ignore reality. The International Monetary Fund's global fiscal and stability reports suggest how dangerous that could be.



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By taffychaff

Re: JP Morgan when the next crisis comes by malj1

  Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:17:00 GMT
Meantime on planet earth. HAL hpi Mar 18 = new record asp / rate spikes up to +4.1% yoy / mortgages at most affordable for decade. Quote unquote.

Oh dear oh dear eh?! Those facts must be wrong. After all they just don't agree with HC/TC posts. Couldn't be the supply-demand imbalance could it?! Shurely shome mishtake! Perhaps it's all the fault of Vladimir Putin / the man in the moon / Andy Pandy? I blame Noggin the Nog myself (or perhaps Nogbad the Bad ..).
By malj1

Re: JP Morgan when the next crisis comes by axolotl

  Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:17:00 GMT
Fascinating Hardcore - now I challenge you to construct any sentence containing two mays a maybe and a can which is (a) not self-evidently true and (b) says something which is either meaningful or useful
By axolotl

JP Morgan when the next crisis comes by Hardcore Uproar

  Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:45:00 GMT
www.wolfstreet.com/2018/04/05/when-the-next-crisis-begins-jp-morgan-chase-ceo-james-dimon/

"Interest rates “may go higher and faster than people expect,” the Fed may have to “sell more securities,” and “as all asset prices adjust to a new and maybe not-so-positive environment,” there’s “a risk that volatile and declining markets can lead to market panic.”
By Hardcore Uproar

Re: Macro by Hardcore Uproar

  Thu, 05 Apr 2018 09:16:00 GMT
Also when you´re constructing averages with the past earnings you have to construct debt averages within all social classes as to affordability as well. Household debt as absolutely soared since 1984 as incomes have fallen

I posted this on the BP board but this really is a top class essay of what has been happening in the workplace since 1980, when Regan, came to power.

www.truthdig.com/articles/the-oligarchs-guaranteed-basic-income-scam/
By Hardcore Uproar

Re: Macro by malj1

  Thu, 05 Apr 2018 08:18:00 GMT
Using statistics, which are just like any other mechanical tool, without understanding how they're constructed or when to use/not use them is very dangerous & will be damaging to you wealth.

In the 60's-80's UK inflation averaged 12%-13% with a spike upto 25%. There were mainly repayment mortgages, with rates 12%-15% with a spike to around 18%. In those days affordability 3 times earnings was a reasonable rule of thumb.

Today inflation is 2.7% & falling. Interest rates will be set accordingly. So 3 times earnings looks wild overkill.

Also as many women now work full time single salary ratio is far less relevant than joint earnings - which was never applied in the good old sexist 60's 70's & 80's. What's relevant evolves over time.

Statistics are rarely 'wrong' but they're very frequently misapplied (as they're misunderstood).
By malj1

Re: Macro by gamesinvestor

  Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:03:00 GMT
""As malj1 and ocean point out, using a ratio of average house prices to average salaries is very crude, because "average" can mean many things""

Average does not mean many things - it's explicit -- it's the average salary (first salary) across the nation -- it's not up for dispute.

Games
By gamesinvestor

Re: Macro by holland44

  Wed, 04 Apr 2018 10:12:00 GMT
I've come late to this "Macro" discussion, but having read back over the thread, I've a few points for the bears who argue that house prices are too high relative to earned salaries. As malj1 and ocean point out, using a ratio of average house prices to average salaries is very crude, because "average" can mean many things, there are substantial regional differences, and the figures are skewed wildly by house prices and wages in London. Additional points, which I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere, are:

i) London is now a "world city", with huge amounts of capital investment brought in from China, Russia, Greece and so on, pushing up residential property prices but not reported average local salaries because the purchasers are usually tax-domiciled abroad. This is new in British economic history and "different this time". For a proper statistical comparison, you would somehow need to strip out this expatriate capital from the figures.

ii) the long-term average cited with such confidence conceals huge changes in tax and finance policy: for example, before 1965 (I think), homeowners used to pay a similar tax to capital gains tax on their price gains when they sold. Government policy then changed to gift 100% tax-free capital gains to householders; this helped create the insidious rhetoric of the "property ladder" and a boom in people attracted to buy their own homes, encouraging them to stretch themselves despite having more marginal incomes. This has reversed somewhat recently because a smaller proportion of people can now afford to buy and they are forced to rent, but arguably this is not such a bad thing for the stability of the overall housing market (fewer people are vulnerable to sudden increases in mortgage costs, which is typically what kicks off a price crash due to forced selling). How are these tax changes factored into the figures cited by the bears?

iii) Another factor is the availability of mortgages. Before 1979 exchange controls prevented the import and export of capital - including residential housing investment capital - to the UK, and the BoE imposed restrictions on how much banks and building societies could lend in mortgages: not just per-customer, but also in total. I can remember opening my first savings account with the Halifax in 1979 and being told that I would only be considered for a mortgage after at least five years of being a customer, that I could never, ever borrow more than 3 times my income, and that I would have to wait my turn for a mortgage because they were rationed. My parents faced similar restrictions when they bought their first house in 1957, when the UK was still recovering from effective bankruptcy after the Second World War. How can one make valid comparisons between the housing market in such an environment in the 1950s, 60s and 70s, when prices were in part controlled by the supply of mortgages and by capital gains tax on house prices, and now, where there are still advisory restrictions but there is a much larger pool of available capital and number of potential lenders? *Of course* house price to salary ratios were lower back then: people were simply not *allowed* to borrow any more, even if they could afford it!

iv) ditto, before the 1988 Housing Act, private renting was being killed off by high taxation and extreme rent controls. With the arrival of assured shorthold tenancies and then buy-to-let mortgages, the bears have surely noticed that there's been a boom in private renting, with landlords buying property for the long term with much higher deposits than the average owner-occupier; many BTL properties are now purchased for cash, with no mortgage involved and no vulnerability to rises in interest rates. These changes have removed up to 20% of the UK housing stock from potential availability for sale, and almost certainly reduced the propensity of the housing market to crash; they also skew the figures, because for a valid comparison, you would need
By holland44